2024-12-09 by Paul Wagner

In Time-Travel, Can We Be Trapped Within The Infinite, and Stripped of Our Originating Moment

Spirituality & Consciousness|9 min read min read
In Time-Travel, Can We Be Trapped Within The Infinite, and Stripped of Our Originating Moment

Explore the bootstrap paradox through time-travel stories, questions of self-identity and consciousness, and a reflection on the repeating patterns you can notice now.

A bootstrap paradox is a cause-effect loop in which information, an object, or an event is passed through time without a discernible point of origin. The puzzle is not only "Can we change the past?" but "Where did this begin, and who do we become inside the loop?" Through Beethoven, Marty McFly, and other time-travel stories, this exploration carries that question into self-identity, consciousness, and liberation.

If you committed to going back in time to kill Hitler, there are questions to consider: what would you be unwinding and what could truly be undone? Once on the other end of the journey, who would you know yourself to have been, and who would you become?​

By reversing spacetime, you could lose the knowledge and desire to do the killing, and you could lose the reason for your desire. As you unwind your self-identity, do you lose connectivity to the originating point as well as the destination? These questions point to the conundrum known as The Bootstrap Paradox, otherwise known as the Ontological Paradox.

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When caught within cause-effect loops that include traversing the space-time continuum, our purpose and identity can be dissolved, with or without a reboot. Our originating self-identity can become self-created and temporary or self-created with new, unlimited potential.

In essence, being caught within a recurring time arc is similar to the moment of birth within a woman’s womb. A living being and new realities are born, and trajectories for three-dimensional potentialities emerge.

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These ideas invite others. If our souls collect specific information during time-travel, it means that consciousness includes all spacetime possibilities and every potential area. If our spirits can recall our original, intellectual fodder throughout these types of journeys, it means that self-identities remain intact when traversing spacetime, and therefore evolve as if the experience of spacetime were linear.

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I wonder when moving deeper into time spirals, would we begin to collect clear visions and experiences or would we be thrust into undeterminable clouds of impressions?

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“By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.” - Galileo Galilei

Bootstrap Paradox Examples

Our best teachers of how paradoxes might unfold could be some of the writers and producers in Hollywood.

Here some of their narratives involving the Bootstrap Paradox:

  • When Star Trek’s Scotty described how to make transparent aluminum in Star Trek IV, he was referring to how matter might un-form while also remaining in a relatable structure, thus alluding to a cause-effect loop.
  • When Marty McFly played “Johnny B. Goode” and Marty’s bandmate called Chuck Berry so he could hear it, it could be said that Marty and Chuck Berry became born-again with new trajectories, as if never having had the potential to exist prior, except in this unique moment of creation.
  • During The Time Travelers Wife, the time-traveler memorizes a list of dates from a written note. He then ventures back in time and dictates the list, so becoming a co-participant in a never-ending loop that is without a discernible point of origin. In this case, the time-traveler is pulling himself upward “by his bootstraps” as if he is simultaneously both the puppet and puppeteer.
  • Now let’s get to the juiciest example of the Bootstrap Paradox. Doctor Who proposed a riddle. A Beethoven-Loving time traveler departs his current reality to move through spacetime to meet his musical God.
    • When he lands in Beethoven’s living room, he finds that Beethoven is without inspiration or any chance of producing his famous music. Because of his devotion and love for Ludwig, the time traveler commits to copying every one of the master’s creations. On subsequent visits, the time traveler gives them to Beethoven, who in turn, absorbs these gifts and delivers them to the world.
    • Fast-forward to an unknowing time traveler listening to his favorite Beethoven symphony. In an instant, he decides to travel back in time to meet this striking and wonderful composer. The challenge here is to determine who actually wrote the 5th, 6th and 9th Symphonies? Who is Beethoven in this story? Is Beethoven the person who is birthed the moment he receives the copied music? Is the genuine composer, formerly known as Beethoven, now erased from reality? We’ll never know!

If I went back in time to the moment I was assigned this article and handed myself the required research prior to a word being written, I would be creating a bootstrap paradox involving two versions of myself, each of whom would have non-predetermined, potential trajectories, while also being forever tied to each other and the production of this article.​

“How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.” - Niels Bohr

Could Bootstrap Paradoxes Lead To The Hemorrhaging Of Spacetime?

Whenever we imagine something, it can have an impact on our realities. One simple intention or desire can cement unknown and untested trajectories. If our thoughts can impact our lives, it would be easy to imagine that the mechanisms and laws behind spacetime could be tricked, trapped, and trampled. Connecting strands of trajectories and potentialities, whether in this moment or in prior ones, could reshape reality as we know it.

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Events like these wouldn’t only affect our physical realities; they could give birth to pathways and algorithms that are entirely foreign to our bodies, minds, and souls. If one soul was inventive enough to trick her relative spacetime construct, a collection of tinkering souls could have the potential to give birth to new realities, reform consciousness as we know it, and reconstruct the building blocks of creation in all directions and realms. In other words, yes, we can cause the eternal nature of all realities to have simultaneous strokes, which in turn could extinguish all realities or birth unlimited ones.

Bootstrap Paradox Movies And TV Series

Hollywood has done an excellent job at creating believable narratives and characters that bring to life these types of paradoxes. Even though these are not all perfect examples of bootstraps, this list will answer most of your questions and freak you out (in a good way):

  • Interstellar
  • Looper
  • Timecrimes
  • Arrival
  • Primer
  • Time Lapse
  • The Final Countdown
  • 12 Monkeys
  • Terminator
  • Terminator 2

You might recall moments where you felt as though you were within a loop. It may have felt like déjà vu, or it may have felt more palpable and tangible. It’s entirely possible that every life is a bootstrapped loop. When we’re feeling bad about ourselves, what picks us up? When we’re missing important pieces of information, what mechanisms or influences cause them to appear? Before a flower is born, does life-itself reach backward to pull it into existence and give birth to a new here-and-now? It’s fun to ponder!

There was a period in my life when I was sitting in Amma’s darshan hall, overwhelmed by grief and confusion after a personal loss. The physical pressure of her hug pushed me into the moment - breath caught, nerves frayed, tears released without censorship. In that holding, something unspooled inside me, like a tight knot loosening, not by thinking but by feeling the body’s raw pain without escape. It wasn’t some mystical fix. It was pure, brutal presence.

I remember leading a workshop in Denver where a client’s entire upper body started trembling uncontrollably as we worked through deep-seated trauma. I stayed with him, grounded in the understanding that the nervous system needs to move before the mind can catch up. No fancy words, no quick answers. Just breath, shaking, release - the body undoing what the mind tried to hold tight for years. Watching that, I was reminded again: freedom isn’t in changing the past... it’s in allowing what’s trapped inside to come through and drop away.

A Reflection on the Loop You Can Notice Now

Choose one ordinary moment that seems to repeat: an argument, a familiar regret, or the urge to become a different person before you can begin again. Write three short lines: what keeps happening; the story you tell about who you are in it; and one response available to you now. Ask which part is a remembered event and which part is a story being repeated in the present.

A repeating feeling is not, by itself, evidence of a literal time loop. Let the paradox serve as a question rather than a verdict about your life. You do not have to solve spacetime before noticing what this moment asks of you. The reflection is not a demand to relive a painful event or force a bodily release; an ordinary, manageable example is enough.

Continue Exploring Identity and Presence

For the question beneath the time-travel riddle - whether losing a familiar identity means losing yourself - continue with The Self That Cannot Be Lost.

For a quieter continuation of the article's turn toward the here-and-now, read Presence Is Your Natural State. It keeps the next inquiry close to the moment you are actually living.

The Consciousness: The Architecture of Awareness guide gathers related teachings on awareness and identity, giving these questions a wider spiritual context beyond the movie examples.

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If we were so inclined, closed-loop time travel, causal loop paradoxes, and controlled repetition of cause-effect loops might also produce trajectories that result in the absolute liberation of consciousness, for all beings, across all realities, throughout all the realms, and for all time. This gives greater meaning to the Sanskrit mantra often shared by Amma, The Hugging Saint: “Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu,” which translates to, “May all the Beings in all the Worlds Be Happy.”

Questions About This Article

What is the bootstrap paradox?

A bootstrap paradox is a cause-effect loop in which information, an object, or an event passes through time without a discernible point of origin. The article also calls it the Ontological Paradox.

How does the Beethoven story illustrate a bootstrap paradox?

A time traveler copies Beethoven's music and gives it to Beethoven, who delivers it to the world. That music later inspires the traveler's journey, leaving the story without a clear answer to who composed it first.

What question does the article raise about self-identity in time travel?

It asks whether unwinding events could also unwind a traveler's knowledge, desires and connection to an originating identity. It explores these possibilities as questions about consciousness rather than settling them.

How can I reflect on a repeating pattern without assuming a literal time loop?

Choose an ordinary, manageable example. Write what keeps happening, the story you tell about yourself in it, and one response available now. Distinguish a remembered event from the story being repeated in the present.